HELP

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:34 pm Post subject: HELP

My pc keeps ramdomly shutting itself down and re-starting

here's the log

- System

  - Provider

   [ Name]   Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
   [ Guid]   {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}

   EventID 41

   Version 2

   Level 1

   Task 63

   Opcode 0

   Keywords 0x8000000000000002

  - TimeCreated

   [ SystemTime]   2010-03-20T16:28:18.734375000Z

   EventRecordID 1795

   Correlation

  - Execution

   [ ProcessID]   4
   [ ThreadID]   8

   Channel System

   Computer JOKER-PC

  - Security

   [ UserID]   S-1-5-18

- EventData

  BugcheckCode 0
  BugcheckParameter1 0x0
  BugcheckParameter2 0x0
  BugcheckParameter3 0x0
  BugcheckParameter4 0x0
  SleepInProgress false
  PowerButtonTimestamp 0

HURRY B4 Pc world shuts !!

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

PC now dead , wont power up ! Don't know if it's psu , mobo , gfx-card or Ram !

What ever it is , I won't be able to fix it anytime soon !

I'll keep In touch via wap

Morc

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:13 am Post subject: Re: HELP

Have a look at this Link should be off help m8

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

Thnx Tor ! But the power doesn't even turn on , to be honest I think a. New pc is in order !!!

I don't want to buy new psu just in case it's the gfx card or the mobo

it's a mine field of chaos ! Just counted my piggy bank and got Â£ 200 in it , so I'll keep saving till I can afford something from cyberpower systems website.

Morc

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

There are a few easy stepts to check if u can get it running again.

1. Open the chassis and smell if it smells like burned rubber or simulair.
(if so its prob better if u get a new pc)

2. Disconnect the power supply

3. There is a battery in the middle somewhere of your mainboard, take that out for an half an hour and then put it back in again

4. take a piece of toilet paper or earclean plug and remove all the dust u can find, specially on the fans that cool down your equipment, overheating is a reason why a computer doesnt boot up. Its secured not to do so in case of fire etc.

5. when not already put the battery back in place.

6. connect the power supply again. and press power

Dust can easily prevent a pc from starting up.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

what you do is. get some matches set fire to it and get a new 1. Â£200 pound lots out their here just 1 i have fond

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hope this helps m8 lol

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

Or, if you pm me your address I can send you the psu I just took out of mine - no chance of selling a second hand psu, it's a 600w, yours free if you want it,

That might help with the diagnosis

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:44 am Post subject: Re: HELP

OK, lets eliminate the PSU first.....

Your motherboard should have some indication on it to reflect that it is getting power. Some Motherboards just have a LED, some have a POST probe showing 2 digits. If either of these are lit, then you have something else which is dead.

To break the scenario down, remove all your cards that you have installed. Does the machine now boot with just the motherboard? If not, remove the RAM modules. Power the machine up - it should beep several times now as there is no RAM recognised.

Without using another PSU to eliminate this, there is no sure way to guarantee where the problem is without seeing the machine. If the machine booted, I have the tools to tell me which component has actually failed but it needs to boot first. I share your pain!!

Of course if you had some sort of power surge, it could just be the fuse in the plug!! I've seen that one before :-)

Cheers
Tim

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:09 am Post subject: Re: HELP

Hi tim , removed the gfx card and it boots ( not
connected to monitor thou )
I got msi p35 neo-f
I don't know if I should boot it without gfx card to see if it's got
inboard gfx

morc

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: Re: HELP

sorry was having a blonde moment.
Without gfx card how could i possibly hook up the monitor !!!!
Ok booted it up with just the ram .... Got roughly 8 beeps , left
it
booting up seems fine , I do remember giving my
gfx card a clean two weeks ago and putting it back In without attaching the 6pin power supply , would that have anything to do with my problems ????

Morc

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: Re: HELP

YO!! Morc,

OK, you do not have onboard graphics. So, without knowing which graphics card you have can't do too much :-(

Does your graphics card have external power to it via the floppy/HDD power connector? If so, try another connector. You should have a fan on the card unless it has a massive heat sink to make it silent.

So, reseat the graphics card ONLY and connect the power to it. When you power the system up, does the fan on the card turn? If not, you have a power problem/fan problem on the card which is shorting out the AGP connector causing your motherboard to protect itself. You can pick up fairly decent entry level cards for approx Â£35 so that may be the way to go if you are on a budget.

I've seen graphic cards cause all sorts of problems (Dom & Adam's PC generally!!) where they have been slightly dislodged which causes a PC not to boot. If the cooling fan is not turning, the GPU on the card will overheat very quickly. However, most times the machine will POST (Power on Self Test - where you see the BIOS screen) and then shut down. That is indicative of the GPU overheating or North/South bridge on the motherboard failing.

Let me know
Cheers
Tim

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:33 am Post subject: Re: HELP

LMAO!! I was posting when you did!! Connect up the power to the Graphics card - you should then be fine!!

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: Re: HELP

Hi tim , after origionaly finding out I didn't connect the external power supply two weeks ago I did then connect it , the rebooting happened after that , after random rebooting on Saturday it wouldn't boot up at All , now gfx card is out it boots up , now I know when it was last connected the fans on gfx card were turning ( xpert vision 9600 gt)

Morc

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:59 am Post subject: Re: HELP

Hmmmmmm, sounds like it could well be your graphics card then preventing the system from booting. Do you have an old one that would work with your system - just to see if it boots?

maybe you damaged the graphics card when you cleaned it, but like tim said, try an old one if you have one kicking around

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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

hey morc

another small thing to maybe help you

I had same type of problem, after a while comp shut down. Â What i noticed was the mobo and graphics card were gone.

Have a look at mobo and graphics card capacitors, you will probably have some electrolytic ones that have a small cross on top, plastic surronding with voltage written on side. Â If the top looks like popped then probably thats your start of problem. Â Thats what happened to me and it took a year or two of anoying power downs lol

have a look mate

andy

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: Re: HELP

Good Morning all.

I havent done much with anything yet , but i have removed the gfx card and booted it up , it beeped for a few times but untill i get hold another card i wont be able to let ulot know anymore info.

Marc

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

Marc,

PM me with your address. I've got a few bits and pieces around that may just help.

Cheers
Tim

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

tried an old one , no joy.

just bought a cheapo from pc world , still no joy

power supply me thinks ..................Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Morc

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

hmmmm, either motherboard or Power Supply then.

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for cheap kit or for built systems go to the component shop.

Cheers
Tim

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

My PSU is still on offer if you want to give that a whirl

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:47 am Post subject: Re: HELP

Cheerz skinny but I don't trust myself to change power supplys

Morc

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: Re: HELP

It just booted up with red wArning notice saying overclocking failed press f11 to reset bios etc etc then powered down again !! I'm ready to chuck it in the bin!!

Morc

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: Re: HELP

hmmmmmm, motherboard problem me thinks. PSU swapout is fairly simple but I think that you are right to start looking at a new machine. The cost of diagnosing a problem like this would outweigh the cost of a new machine. Such a great society that we live in when it is cheaper to throw away than repair.
Mad

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: HELP

Got startup repair running sounds like HD clicks every 5 seconds